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Old January 24, 2008, 6:02 PM   #1
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One Big FFVII Rip Off?

With the latest scans that have been released by Square, I can't help but feel like FFXIII and Versus is just another name for a FFVII remake.

My argument? The character designs.
This following link includes cursing, but the images are rather interesting:
http://www.randomfew.net/~contra/1201147494549.jpg
So, pretty much, to sum up 'Lightning,' as the picture does, it's just a pink-haired Cloud on estrogen. =/

Now for images:
Tifa:

And now, the newest girl from Versus:

I rest my case. =/

And now, hauntingly similar character designs:

So, pretty much, what Nomura did, was bulk Cloud up, dump water on his hair and wave it out, and add more pointless belts and buckles.

And now, just for kicks, the use of multiple swords...inside a sword:
From the Advent Children Finale:

Couldn't find a great image, but, you guys remember.



Now, they all do look bad ass, don't get me wrong, and I'm sure you guys will go: "That's just Nomura's artistic style," but, I'm getting tired of seeing the same old recycled designs, over and over again.

If Square was going to use the same image-renders as they did for Advent Children, and the same outfit designs...

....Why not just remake FF7 so everyone can go home happy?
/End Rant.

Edit: I just want to clarify this for any of the new posters to this thread. I am talking ONLY about the designs. I am NOT making any claims about unoriginal storyline, or battle system, or music, or anything like that. I'm only commenting on the character designs, and nothing else.

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Old January 24, 2008, 6:10 PM   #2
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They excpect people to buy it because of the FF label but sooner or later if there like me very observent then they will notice the similaraties.
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Old January 24, 2008, 7:11 PM   #3
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I'm not saying people won't buy it, I'm just wishing Nomura would make something different for a change.
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Old January 24, 2008, 7:58 PM   #4
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I'm not saying people won't buy it, I'm just wishing Nomura would make something different for a change.
I know where your coming from with this.
But FF has been recycling characters for ages.
Yuna - Ashe, Tidus - Vaan...there's a few character recycles that they're managed to pull.

As for "Nomura's artistic style"...what a load of bull.
It's his job to keep things fresh, and keep characters seeming new and like real individuals, not just some recycled clone.

Although...the multiple swords idea IS pretty badass.
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you have a point they re very similar character designs and that one who is similar to cloud is pritty badass looking
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Old January 24, 2008, 8:25 PM   #6
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I know where your coming from with this.
But FF has been recycling characters for ages.
Yuna - Ashe, Tidus - Vaan...there's a few character recycles that they're managed to pull.

As for "Nomura's artistic style"...what a load of bull.
It's his job to keep things fresh, and keep characters seeming new and like real individuals, not just some recycled clone.

Although...the multiple swords idea IS pretty badass.
Actually, the recycled character designs started at Final Fantasy VIII.
Tifa=Rinoa
Rufus=Seifer
Scarlet=Quistis

And, The Bouncer, the characters looked EXACTLY like FF8 characters.
Sion=Squall
Kaldea=Rinoa
Dominique=Selphie [Facially]
Pink-haired chick=Quistis [facially]
Dauragon=Seifer

FFIX had different-looking characters, but, if I remember right, Nomura didn't design them, and the general audience didn't approve. If they had been made to look realistic, I think they would have all looked fine.

FFX actually had a nice change of pace for character designs, and I was pleased with it.

Same with FFXII. But, that, again, was a different character designer. Ashe and Vaan really didn't look like Tidus or Yuna when you compared the models. Only similaries were short hair and hair color. But, with this FFXIII business, the faces are FRIGHTENINGLY similar, as is the attire.

Square needs to stop recycling, period. =/
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Old January 24, 2008, 10:43 PM   #7
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i agree with u. so many of the characters look alike. the tifa and new chick one kinda pmo b/c she looks just like tifas twin! but i do think the characters 4 this upcoming game do look pretty bad ass even if they are recycled. and the new red headed chick is a new design. so nomuras got some talent, hes just gotten stuck in the glory of his past designs
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Whoa Lighteningstorm! Please make your post more legible I had trouble translating that. XD

Well, the characters to look simular but we'll have to wait till the game comes out and see if the stories are simular.

I do know that the main character Lightning was based off Cloud.

There have been many Final Fantasy characters that look simular.

Tifa-Rinoa-Garnet
Locke-Zidane
Celes-Beatrix

Heck XII was a bit of a VI rip off so maybe there's a pattern going on? XD

VI-XII
VII-XIII
VIII-XIV
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Old January 25, 2008, 3:57 AM   #9
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Whoa Lighteningstorm! Please make your post more legible I had trouble translating that. XD

Well, the characters to look simular but we'll have to wait till the game comes out and see if the stories are simular.

I do know that the main character Lightning was based off Cloud.

There have been many Final Fantasy characters that look simular.

Tifa-Rinoa-Garnet
Locke-Zidane
Celes-Beatrix

Heck XII was a bit of a VI rip off so maybe there's a pattern going on? XD

VI-XII
VII-XIII
VIII-XIV
XII was actually similar to IV, Tactics, and Vagrant Story, because it had the same staff on it, and it was based in the Tactics world. There's plenty of references to those games in it.

I'm not saying that the stories will be the same, I'm just remarking on the horribly unoriginal character designs.
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Old January 25, 2008, 10:07 AM   #10
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I've been thinking this myself for some time now, guy from Verses XIII does look hugely similar to Cloud.

It seems all he can do these days is 'borrow' from the predocessors. I swear I seen an 'Irvine' in a XIII screenshot somewhere....but I guess aslong as the personalitys are diffrent and it doesn't seem to be a complet rip-off of the characters we already know and love it'll be easy to block the resembleance out when it comes too.
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