Normal Battles or XII's?

May 27, 2007, 10:22 AM

Are you hoping for the actual battle scenes or the bad XII's ones..

Explain why

I really hope they go for the normal ones if not, it'll prove that FF is getting worse as it goes =[

May 27, 2007, 11:44 AM

Lol..actual battle scenes? Yeah, like those tedious random encounters will be coming back on FFXIII. Bad XII ones? It's not bad, just different. They FEEL like an actual battle. Lol, your theory proves nothing. Just because they changed their battle system..things are going to get worse? No. Far from it. How long have Square been using random encounters. How long have we waited for something different? Too long. Random encounters aren't exactly an FF thing either. They're not unique, as they appear in other games. So if we lose them, for good, it doesn't prove FF's are going to suck in the future. It's not a big thing for them to just disappear.

May 27, 2007, 12:00 PM

ive actually heard that the XIII series (versus, agito, etc.) will be the last chapter in the FF series, so theres no getting better or worse in the future (this is just what i heard, idk if its true or not). and i PREFER turn-based battle but it doesn't look like square will be going that way. oh well, i like them both...i just like turn based a wee bit better.

May 27, 2007, 12:18 PM

Obviously I would like it to go back to the traditional turn based battles. It's more challenging, especially when you come to boss fights since you get one turn in a certain amount of time and you have to think carefully about what to use. FFXII's was just too hack 'n' slash for me, plus you could cast Haste, Shell, Protect, Regen etc before you fight the boss.

I know that this will not be the case so I hope they will improve a lot on FFXII's battle system. They really need to find a way that you control every party members moves without using some crappy system that does it for you. I want to control them, not let the COM do it for me. Before people reply "But Kain, you can control all your party members, lolz!". Yes I know but it doesn't really work well although quite a lot of the time I did find myself doing that.

May 27, 2007, 6:21 PM

i beg Square that FF13 has random battles. The FF series shouldn't have changed that factor

May 28, 2007, 9:14 AM

Then how are you supposed to improve gameplay, when the battles are just going to be the same all the time? If anything, I have said this before, when the FF's started coming to PS2, random battles should have been replaced. I can understand people being clingy to the old system, but it's not really offering anything new now.

May 28, 2007, 12:28 PM

yeah im not gonna lie here, i am completely clingy. i just want traditional old final fantasy battles.. because to me its what makes a final fantasy a final fantasy. the way you fight, magic, great storyline, great replay value, and good characters. these are all consistent traits of final fantasies, and to me, its what makes them my absolutely uncontested favorite games in the whole world.

May 28, 2007, 1:11 PM

They're not traditional final fantasy battles though. Random battles/encounters have featured in other games, as I have already said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_battles

Here, read that.

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the way you fight, magic, great storyline, great replay value, and good characters.

FFXII kept in touch with magic, abilities etc - it still has Final Fantasy plastered over the gameplay system. The only thing different was..no random battles. Plus, the inclusion of gambits, much like you get the thing of changing jobs while in battle in X-2. It still plays like one, you have Espers, though they're a bit useless, they all get to be useless after a while in many games, summoning wise anyway. I know I'm straying here from the original discussion, but FFXII does keep with the FF tradition. It has the races, sidequests, magic, weapons, graphics etc.

May 28, 2007, 3:28 PM

yes, yes, yes. FFXII is in all rights a great final fantasy game. i was just saying that from having beating FFV-FFX prior to playing FFXII, i had an idea of what i was going to see when i put it in the ps2. i definitely don't not like the battles of FFXII, i think theyre new and add a new element to the series, im just saying that i would prefer final fantasies to stay traditional and change something other then one of the most important parts of the game, as you spend a large portion of the game in battles.

May 28, 2007, 4:04 PM

Thing is though, what could they change? The things they would have to change would be something big - storyline, graphics (not so much graphics..) and characters. Those aspects, can be hard to make changes to. Kinda hard to explain more >.<