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| Final Fantasy XII Presumably the last "main" game to be released on the PS2, FF12 broke the tradition of Battle Screens. It was also the sixth game ever to receive a perfect 40/40 score from the Japanese gaming magazine Famitsu. |
April 20, 2007, 12:48 AM
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Espers or Classics?
Do you guys like Espers better or do you like the classic summons? I like the classic summons like Ifrit, Ramuh, and Bahamut better. I think it's gay that they took all of them out and replaced them with Espers. Taking out the old summons was a big mistake I think. They are apart of the classic FF's and they should have stayed in the game.
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April 20, 2007, 12:50 AM
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I much rather prefer the Classic summons than the espers - i felt nothing for them, but it was nice to have all the major airships named after the Classic summons 
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April 20, 2007, 12:53 AM
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Definently the classics. Without them XII sort of lacked the Final Fantasy feel. I know they were names of air ships but come one! The classic summons were the only reoccuring characters in all the Final Fantasy games and sort of linked them all together. Cid doesn't count because it's a different Cid everytime.
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April 20, 2007, 12:55 AM
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I like the classics better.
I was really dissapointed that the old summons weren't really..."summons" in this game. =[
I always love when they introduce a new summon just as a one time perk, but these summons were all dissapointing and useless to me. =[
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April 20, 2007, 12:56 AM
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original summons
i agree
espers=gay
haha
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April 20, 2007, 1:54 AM
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I love the espers =) , and they fit perfectly in the game and his story. I supose you had read the bestiary of each one so you can put relations between the story of the game and the espers.
Not like Ifrit or Shiva in the others final fantasy , because they're in there because they are classics, that's all.
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I like the classics better.
I was really dissapointed that the old summons weren't really..."summons" in this game. =[
I always love when they introduce a new summon just as a one time perk, but these summons were all dissapointing and useless to me. =[
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yes, they were kinda useless x), but the system of the espers is preserved and it's like oldies; you can`t control them.
ffX summon system is pretty new in that way.
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Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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April 20, 2007, 3:10 AM
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Classics definitely. There is nothing wrong with adding new summons like Ixion in FFX or Quezacotl in FFVIII and having others that come in and out games like Carbuncle but they always should have the ones like Ifrit, Shiva and Bahamut and add in maybe a few other recurrent summons like Ramuh, Carbuncle, Fenrir, Alexander etc. That was one thing that pissed me off with the game is the fact that they completely done away with all the summons (except for some being marks, bosses, airships etc) and added in a bunch of espers which I couldn't make out what they looked like. Like I said, nothing wrong with new summons but they always should have a mixture of new, regulars and some others that have made a few appearences.
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April 20, 2007, 5:42 AM
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People, chill out lol  ? They were like away...from one game. lol@ the people who said it was gay XD . Sure, they're not exactly useful, but even I needed a break from seeing the same old stuff. Now I think about it, I don't think the originals would have fitted in. Were the originals ones that caused terror, did wicked things and were consumed by power etc? This is what happened with the Espers in XII - originals, were never like betrayers, they had been..well, neautral, or good, willing to help mankind. We didn't always fight them either.
If it makes the traditonalist summon lovers happy, expect to see them in Revenant Wings..
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April 20, 2007, 5:47 AM
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Espers definitely!
Yeah, I could eat pizza everyday for the rest of my life but I'd become sick of it soo fast. Same with the same old Summons over and over again. The Espers were a nice change from the previous installments of the series; Final Fantasy needed it.
We all know that Ifrit is a fire summon, Shiva is Ice, Bahamut is lord of the Dragons and usually one of the best in the game. When FF games get to predictable, it's time to shake things up a bit and that's just what SE did. I loved it.
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April 20, 2007, 6:15 AM
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Seph says yer dumb
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I liked the Espers themselves, but not the way they were used. In terms of using them in actual gameplay, they were completely useless. Pretty to look at, but useless.
So I don't really know how to answer the question xD I love all the old summons/gf's/eidolon's/aeons etc... But I did like all the new Espers. I just wish they had been implemented better :/
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Espers or Classics? 
