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Old June 24, 2007, 1:21 AM   #1
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Seymour. Evil or Just Misguided?

We all know that Seymour wanted to become Sin and kill everyone. but do you think he did this for his own evil plans or because he genuinly believed it would save the people of spira? doesn't this show that he's not really "Evil" and just wants the best for spira?

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Old June 24, 2007, 1:29 AM   #2
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Well for someone who uses his mother for power (though she offered herself freely to give some protection and help her son) and also for someone who murdered his own father, I say yes he is quite evil.

He was like the average twisted child who wishes to gain absolute destructive power beyond his understanding an use it to annihilate everything ruthlessly. Though he showed some humanity when he fell in love (though this can't be assured) with Yuna even though this love became twisted by his own selfish goals.
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Old June 24, 2007, 1:50 AM   #3
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I say he was evil, he kinda reminded me of Sephi in a way... he used his mother for power...
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Old June 24, 2007, 2:02 AM   #4
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Exactly though the only difference is that Seymour used his mother for his own selfish goals which were acquiring great power, and Sephiroth was really devoted to his "mother" the parasitic life form "Jenova". Neither Sephiroth manipulated Jenova nor Jenova manipulated Sephiroth. In fact it was a mutual alliance to destroy a common enemy, humanity (and the ancients of course).
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Old June 24, 2007, 2:10 AM   #5
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I think he was genuinely evil.
Why in the world would he destroy the world except for his personal gain? I don't take stock in the fact that he said he wanted to 'save Spira' thing.

Well that's my opinion anyways.
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Old June 24, 2007, 2:16 AM   #6
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Well, when you sit & think about it: If everything ceases to exist, there can be no suffering. Isn't real happiness the absence of suffering? Basically, I think perhaps both Yuna's side & Seymour's side were trying to reach the same end through different means.

As to whether or not that makes him evil: Well, I guess you'd have to determine whether the ends justify the means, eh?

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Neither Sephiroth manipulated Jenova nor Jenova manipulated Sephiroth. In fact it was a mutual alliance to destroy a common enemy, humanity (and the ancients of course).
Not to stray too far from the topic, but I can agree with this idea. Of the whole scenario you have your two extremes (Jenova > Sephiroth & Sephiroth > Jenova) & then you've got your middle-ground (Jenova = Sephiroth). While I'll never accept a Sephiroth > Jenova theory (regardless of what a producer says, being as how they don't have the backbone to go against a massive Sephy-fangasm), I'm more than willing to accept the middle-ground idea & say that their relationship was simply mutually beneficial.
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Old June 24, 2007, 3:43 AM   #7
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I think that Seymour had a more vindictive thought in mind when he wanted to "save" Spira. I believe that he was merely sugar-coating the fact that he wanted to take revenge on everyone who had treated him poorly throughout his life because he was half Guado, and half man. He blamed his father for not being able to protect him from that, and he blamed his mother for leaving him, (although he got his first real taste of power when he got the Aeon, Anima).

So IMO, Seymour was an evil villian. But he's the type of villian that tries to make you feel sorry for him, or relate with him. Not really a likable villian IMO.
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Old June 24, 2007, 7:54 AM   #8
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But then again Seymour never wonted to turn his mum into anima. But i guess his a bit of both because he kill his father and such but he was misguided a bit because he killed his father because of his mom (because his mum gave him power, so he wonted more) so half i guess.
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Old June 24, 2007, 5:49 PM   #9
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Seymour had a twisted idea of "saving" Spira. Since, according to Yevonite crap, Spira was sent to purify "Spira" as a punishment from Yu Yevon for abusing machina, which is a lie of course.

Seymour just wanted to take control of Yu-Yevon's power, not knowing that he would eventually become Yu-Yevon's puppet. It was all a matter of revenge like someone stated before. As being a half human-half guado being, he was rejected by both races which caused him to develop a deepening hatred towards the world and mostly towards his own father who failed to protect him...

Seymour is the type of villain with no emotions except for one, pure hatred against those who caused him much more suffering. Now that I think of it, Seymour could have been a great villain they developed this character even more....and with a better voice acting....
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Old June 25, 2007, 9:32 AM   #10
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