Squall's Parents - Page 3

February 19, 2007, 8:46 AM

I understand the whole Squall's parents thing now. Thanks for sharing the information with us, BustaMo. I finally understand it and I knew that they were his parents without a doubt. Anyone who doesn't see the resemblance is dumb.

February 22, 2007, 7:26 PM

wow ive played ff8 3 times (at one point i was addicted to it) and it never really crossed my mind.
is that why ellone shows up at the start then??

March 1, 2007, 1:19 AM

i'm still beyond lost here....

March 9, 2007, 4:30 PM

But it's simple ! Laguna and Raine had a baby (Squall). Laguna wasn't there when Squall is born, he was in Esthar for the revolution. It's said in the game that Raine died because Laguna wasn't close to her when she had her baby. So he was put in the orphanage along with Ellone. And, what Ward and Kiros are saying in the Ragnarok about Squall's father is telling us that Laguna is his father. Laguna know that Squall is his son, but he's just saying "We have a lot to talk about, but lets talk later".

And someone was saying that at the ending video, the were going again in the past and it was changed when we see Laguna and Raine getting married. It's not changing, it's just Laguna remembering this moment full of joy.

March 9, 2007, 4:41 PM

You know even I was confused but now I get it.

March 10, 2007, 7:11 PM

I came to the same conclusion! Squall has to be the son of Laguna and Raine! it 's the only explaination that makes sense.

March 10, 2007, 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhea

Someone please take the honor of writing out a ten paragraph post explaining the logic behind this...There are so many rumors flying around that Laguna is Squall's father...but it makes no sense to me.
Laguna never got together with Julia. Julia only had one daughter, Rinoa.
Laguna never had a chance to get together with Raine...because she died.

Well?

Squalls parents are raine and laguna, what happened is that when laguna left with kiros and wardto fight, raine never told laguna that she was pregnant with his baby when they came back Raine died and ellone was gone thats when Ellone and Squall were sent to the orphanage and thats how they met Quistis Zell Irvine Seifer and Selphie when the esther soldiers came for Ellone Squall was "all alone" and soon later Laguna came to the orphanage looking for Ellone and realized that ellone was in esther he could've seen Squall and not even known that that was his son. When Squall was in the infirmary after his fight with seifer Ellone saw him again but Squall didn't know. Ellone then started sending Squall back into the past as laguna because she knew that laguna was his father and Raine was his mother

March 11, 2007, 9:11 AM

Yep, that's what I thought too. Laguna never got together with Julia because of the war.

March 13, 2007, 1:11 PM

Yes I did think Laguna was Squalls father. Its quite a sad storyline, the fact Raine died in childbirth, Laguna doesnt get with Julia and Rinoa and Squall love each other. Tragic, yet romantic. Poor Laguna, he has no luck!

March 26, 2007, 12:18 AM

WARNING! MASSIVE SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE GAME FOLLOW! IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND IT, YOU MUST HAVE A GOOD GRASP ON THE STORYLINE. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. THANK YOU.

Okay, here is my theory... And I have some evidence to back it up...

Alright, Laguna liked Julia (the women at the Galbadia Hotel). He and Julia had a romantic night, but nothing really happened. This is shown through the first Dream World sequence.

Now, according to the in-game info in the tutorial, it says that Julia wanted to see the soldier (obviously Laguna) again, but he got called back in for the war, which is what happened at the end of the first Dream World sequence. The in-game info then states that General Caraway felt bad for Julia, and then they fell in love, got married, and Julia gave birth to a little girl (obviously Rinoa), but died three years later in a car crash. This would make sense because General Caraway is Rinoas father, which would make Julia her mother.

Now back to Laguna, after the second Dream World sequence, he was nurtured back to health in the town of Winhill by a woman named Raine. Raine had a little daughter (named Ellone). Now Laguna was gratefull enough to repay the favor to Raine by clearing the monsters of Winhill daily. During his stay there, he became in love with Raine, and attached to Ellone.

Now follow closely, because this is where it gets confusing.

Somewhere near the time before when Ellone was captured by Esthar soldiers, Laguna proposed to Raine (shown at the ending sequence), and Raine accepted. Shortly after that, they had a nice time, and made love (if you know what I mean). Then the Esthar soldiers came, took Ellone, and then Laguna went off to get Ellone back.

While Laguna was searching for Ellone, Raine was pregnant. And she then gave birth to a boy. A boy named Squall. Now the in-game info tells us that Squalls mother died at childbirth. So then I'm assuming, shortly after being born, Edea's SeeDs came and took Squall, and put him into the Orphanage, where he met Ellone (whom Laguna was still searching for). He began calling her "Sis". However, he had no idea that they had a blood relation.

Now Ultimecia is in the future, learns about Ellones powers, and then takes control over Adel to search out for Ellone. Adel then sends her Esthar troops to the Centra continent, where they find Ellone, and take her back for Dr. Odine to start experimentation. Laguna and friends get to Esthar, get captured and are sent to prison. Now you all know what happens then, because you played it out during one of the Dream World Sequences.

Now in the in-game info, you learn that the Gardens (Galbadia/Tribia/Balamb and others *CoughEdenCough*) used to be on the Centra Continent, which was home of the Lunar Tears, and the Centra people must've seen the oblivion comming, so they left the continent and found refuge at other locations. During the time when Esthar went to Edea's Orphanage to take Ellone, Edea (or her SeeDs) took the Orphans to one of the Gardens, which explains why Irvine ended up going Galbadia and not Balamb.

Then Laguna and the Adel Resistance group finally defeats Adel by sending her into space. Laguna, who was the leader of the resistance then becomes the president of Esthar.

Now Squalls life at the Balamb Garden begins, along with everyone elses. And as they grew, they began using the GF, which is why they don't remember anything until they figure it all out. And then once Squall is in his 17th year of life, the story begins.

Some more evidence leading to Laguna being the father:

During the storyline that I just gave you, you see that the only girl that Laguna had time to spend with was Raine, and why wouldn't they, they got married! So they obviously had sex, which was probably one of the first times Laguna had some (if not any at all) because he was always on the move. Now, during the sidequest at Shumi Village, you learn that the moombas remember people by the smell of their blood.

You also learn that Laguna taught the moombas how to speak (although the only thing they can say is Laguna), Laguna might've cut himself while teaching, or perhaps he spent so much time with them that they just could smell his presense. But my therory is that while Laguna was in an Esthar prison (this is during a Dream Sequence), and remember when he helped that moomba out by tossing a tool at him? And then he went to grab the moomba to save him from falling. Laguna was in a prison, so he for sure was cut, and the moomba must've smelt it, and then afterwards, Laguna set him free! Remember that? Yeah, the moomba must've went to the Shumi Village or wherever there were moombas and told them all in moomba. Either theory works, you choose which you want ot believe.

Now you know that the moombas can recognize Laguna by his blood. And if you have any knowledge on DNA, you know that blood is transfered when you have a baby. And when Squall is in the Desert Prison, the moombas all say "Laguna! Laguna!" and start looking at Squall. This means they smell Lagunas blood in him. And if that is not enough proof for you, then how about the fact that once Laguna hops onto the Ragnarok near the end of the game, and he goes "Squall, theres a lot I want to tell you..." You can pretty much tell what he's trying to say, knowing all the evidence I have provided.

So with those peices of info: Laguna only having enough time for Raine, and the moombas remembering Lagunas blood, you can put together the peices of the puzzle and see the picture; Squall's parent are Laguna and Raine.

Please read this and tell me your thoughts. I believe this to be the most reliable information on the subject up to date.