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For those who played through at least most of CC should know, Genesis being injected with Jenova cells didn't quite work so well causing his body to degrade, and therefore live shorter and weaker after a while. Lucrecia, the wife of Hojo, mother of Sephiroth and love interest of Vincent Valentine was injected with the same Jenova cells while pregnant, therefore making the first Successful Jenova Project Experiment Sephiroth. But as we all know Lucrecia has lived for a very long time being at least 50+ years old when you encounter her in the main game. So what's the deal with this? Is she immune to degredation somehow?
What are your thoughts on this?
I dunno i thought this was a good topic.. i guess no one cares
Admin edit: Posts merged. Please do not double post. Learn to be patient. You can't expect people to come running to a topic only a few moments after it's made. People will respond when they can and not everyone has played Crisis Core either so they don't necessarily understand what you mean when you say "degradation" Next time, just wait for a person to post before you go making another post so soon. Double posting is against the rules.
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April 1, 2008, 8:07 PM
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I had wondered about that too. Lucrecia was inside the cristal thing, her body was still in it. Does that mean that she didn't return to the lifestream?
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April 1, 2008, 8:19 PM
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No she was in the cave to seclude herself from humanity because she is ashamed of the experiments and herself. Or something along those lines, When you see her in the cave on the chair thingy she is still alive.. assuming she was around the same age as vincent when he was a turk (27) she would be atleast 22, and vincent was sleeping for 30 years. Therefore making her 52+ years.. not very old but she shouldnt of lasted that long cause degredation. they dont explain this in the ultimania
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April 1, 2008, 8:26 PM
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It could have something to do with her strong connection to Sephiroth who had been a SOLDIER.
No one posted in this thread because it was too hard... I think... Who knows...
I doubt that SE would've forgotten about Lucrecia's degredation. Look at Vince, he remained asleep but he still has the image of a man in his late 20s.
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April 1, 2008, 8:31 PM
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Well vincent's aging was explained to be due to his experimentation.
And can you elaborate on the Sephiroth connection theory? I dont quite understand and it sounds interesting
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April 1, 2008, 8:35 PM
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Well vincent's aging was explained to be due to his experimentation.
And can you elaborate on the Sephiroth connection theory? I dont quite understand and it sounds interesting
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Well, Sephiroth is Lucrecia's son is he not? Hojo wanted another experiment with Lucrecia including an innocent life. When Sephiroth grew older he found out the terrible experiment her was used for and he wanted to destroy the world. As well as that, Sephiroth was a SOLDIER. It's just another theory like you said but I'm not sure it's possible, or is it?
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April 1, 2008, 8:45 PM
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im so sorry but i still dont understand. Stuff like sephiroth being in soldier wouldn't affect Lucrecia's inability to degrade. The reason why sephiroth is perfect and genesis isn't is because hojo injected genesis directly with jenova cells, whereas sephiroth's mother was injected therefore sephiroth was born with the genes in his dna naturally sort to speak.
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April 2, 2008, 12:21 AM
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That's inductive reasoning. Sephiroth's biological abilities were dependant on those of his mothers, Lucrecia and Jenova.
What could be said is that Genesis had a natural resistance to the Jenova cells. Assuming this is the case, then we can also assume that Lucrecia was not genetically predisposed to reject Jenova.
In other words, it may not necessarily be that she is immune to it, but rather that other people are prone to it. Perhaps Genesis was one of those who did not have a natural immunity to the effects of the Jenova cell.
And she was also encased in crystal. Note that being encased in ice alone severely slows the decomposition process; crystal that cannot melt due to body heat would preserve it even further. Also, even if decomposition did occur, it wouldn't appear so, because the solid crystal, having high melting temperatures, would hold everything in place.
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April 2, 2008, 12:48 AM
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Those are all very very true thank you.
Canadians definately are better.
But i don't think that would work because in the game everyone who is Enhanced the way genesis and angeal are (Lazard, every single clone including monsters) suffer from the degredation. So the probability that it doesn't apply to Lucrecia is slim to none.
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Yes, but don't forget, they were also showered with Mako. Lucrecia, not being a member of SOLDIER, would not have been exposed to this.
According to Cloud, members of SOLDIER are showered with Mako and injected with Jenova cells. It is also previously stated that SOLDIER is a very high-up level in the fighting-class ShinRa.
The process done on Angeal, Lazard, etc. was before the SOLDIER of FFVII, so the processes were likely not the same. It's plausible that they came up with a new process when they were making fighters like what Cloud tried out for. So, thinking deductively, it could be hypothesized that the newer processes prevented any decay.
There could be other explanations, but that seems the most logical to me.
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