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Old November 11, 2007, 11:57 AM   #1
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I'm Confused About Cloud

I see theories about Clouds past popping up everywhere so can someone tell me what the actual truth about his past is.
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Old November 11, 2007, 12:07 PM   #2
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Well... for starters....
He was not a First Class Soldier, but a normal trooper in blue uniform.
Cloud grew up in the town of Nibelheim and left with a goal to become as famous as Sephiroth (if i remember correctly).

After a going for a mission at Nibelheim, that's when all the confusion and mishap occured.

Did you finish the game yet? As I don't wish to give too many spoilers.
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Old November 11, 2007, 12:09 PM   #3
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I see theories about Clouds past popping up everywhere so can someone tell me what the actual truth about his past is.
There is only one true way of finding out....

actually play the game. If still in doubt, paly it again.
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Old November 13, 2007, 8:34 AM   #4
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wasnt he a clone or something?
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Old November 13, 2007, 9:39 AM   #5
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I have the walk through, I know enough of the game, but it doesn't state much.
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Old November 13, 2007, 9:55 AM   #6
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Then finish the game.

Basically, Cloud was not a First Class SOLDIER, just a normal one. He grew up in Nibelheim with Tifa, and left for Midgar to join SOLDIER (which he somewhat failed at). After the Nibelheim incident in which Sephiroth found out about his origins, Cloud and Zack were taken back to Midgar for experimentation (I think). They escaped, and during the escape Zack was killed while trying to save Cloud. Cloud assumed Zack's identity after he got to safety from the point of becoming a First Class SOLDIER.
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Old November 13, 2007, 10:10 AM   #7
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wasnt he a clone or something?
He was an experiment yes, Jenova Cells were injected into his body. And Hojo did mean for him to be a Sephiroth clone.

Basically he was a normal child living in Nibelheim with Tifa, he wanted to join SOLDIER and become as famous as Sephiroth. So he left Nibelheim and went to Midgar, where he failed at joining SOLDIER but instead joined the Regular army. On the Nibelheim mission Sephiroth was killed, and Zack and Cloud got locked up in the Nibelheim mansion Dungeon (where you get Vincent) for experimental purposes. Eventually they escaped but were found and Zack was killed. Then Cloud was left at the Sector 7 trainstation where he was found by Tifa.

Correct any mistakes anyone? Although i dont think there are any.
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Old November 13, 2007, 10:10 AM   #8
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I have the walk through, I know enough of the game, but it doesn't state much.
Walkthroughs generaly won't tell you, and the game should be enough (though numerous playthrough may be needed to go back to earlier points and allow everything to soak in). Well OK...

Cloud was born in Nibelheim. He was a lonely child, left out by the other children. He made friends with Tifa but he always felt she never really noticed him. So he sought to grow up and become a member of Soldier like his idol, Sephiroth. He left the town for the city and joined the Shinra army.

Now this is where it gets confusing. Cloud didn't really manage to make it into Soldier. He was too weak to become one and so was only ever a 'Grunt'. When he returned to Nibelheim with Sephiroth and Zack on a mission, he was one of the Grunts in blue and kept his identidy hidden so that he would not face embarressment. When Cloud defeated Sephiroth at the reactor after he goes insane, Cloud and Zack are captured by Hojo and put in an experiment to make a 'clone' of Sephiroth (ie, make someone who is an equal copy to Sephiroth in strength) by injecting Jenova Cells and Mako into them.

Because Cloud was just a normal person, The mixture of Jenova Cells and Mako causes him a bad reaction and messed up his state of mind (Zack was OK as he was strong enough to withstand the treatment) however it had made him physicaly stronger, on par with members of Soldier and possibly even Sephiroth (this is how Cloud is now considerd a 'Clone', he is now essentialy a copy of Sephiroth strength-wise). Cloud and Zack escaped and headed to Midgar to become Mercenary's. They were caught up by Shinra soldiers and Zack was killed whilst Cloud was left for dead (still being ill). The Jenova Cells in Cloud reacted to the memorys of Zack (this being one of many powers of Jenova) and merged them togther, creating a facade in accordence to Clouds own ambition as a child and essentialy taking on Zacks role.

Deep inside, Cloud knows something isn't right (hense the voices in his sleep or when he has a funny turn) but he continues to reject the truth. When Sephiroth starts getting into his head and Cloud get confused as why he can't remember certain things, he just assumes what Sephiroth is saying is true. Everything gets resolved when Cloud and Tifa go to the Lifestream and 'unlock' the inner feelings and memorys that are really Clouds and not something made up by Jenova.

I didn't explain it well but thats pretty much it. Questions?
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Old November 13, 2007, 10:13 AM   #9
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Play the game. Its bizzare that people wnat to discover endings and such when they have the game, but refuse to complete it and find out themsleves.
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Old November 13, 2007, 11:04 AM   #10
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Nice overview Moonchild
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