I'll Be Going Now... - Page 2

August 22, 2007, 11:30 AM

This isn't really related to the thread, but I don't understand is why they couldn't use a Phoenix Down on her, or when people die in battle is that just a knockout, then they die if there's no one left?

August 22, 2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kjata

This isn't really related to the thread, but I don't understand is why they couldn't use a Phoenix Down on her, or when people die in battle is that just a knockout, then they die if there's no one left?

They can't use Phoenix down on her because she's already dead. In battles, they don't die, as you've said, they're just knocked out.

I think what Aerith meant is that she'll come back in one piece, however, she can also mean that she'll come back as a spirit. She probably knew how powerful Sephiroth is and there's a possibility that she'll die. I do believe in what Tifa said when they were in Highwind, Aerith don't want to die and that she wants to come back, probably unharmed.

Here's what Cloud and Tifa talked about in the Highwind:

Tifa: I wonder what Aerith felt... when she was on that altar..?
Cloud: I'm sure she wanted to give her life for the planet.
Tifa: Really? I wonder? I don't think that was it. I don't think she wanted to die at all, but was planning on coming back all along. She always used to talk about the 'next time'. She talked about the future more than any of us...

August 22, 2007, 4:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerith Gainsborough

Aeriths farewell to Cloud in the woods is a really important scene, and it connotes so much if you read between the lines,

"I'll be going now...I'll come back soon...When it's all over"

What do you think she meant? Do you think she knows shes gonna come back with a spirit body - as shown in AC?

No. She thought she's pop off, summon Holy, and be back in time for Tea. Her becoming a kebab was not on the list of things to do, and Nomura's been pretty clear about that.

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I also believe this line is what sparked the flurry of "Aerith Resurrection" rumors.

It helps, but no. There were also General Leo ressurection rumors. Have popular character die, will resurrection rumor.

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How much did Aerith know? Did she know she was the only one capable of destroying meteor? did she know she was the biggest threat to sephiroth?

Probably, though I doubt she was the only one who could use Holy (just the only one in the right place to do anything with it), and yes, though I bet she thought she had a larger window in which to do her business without interference from Sephypoo.

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Discuss

Please note - Aerith bashing in this thread is not allowed - i do not wish to see any "OMFG That silly girl thought she could defeeeet sephy and she dieded!! HAHAHA!" or similar comments.

That it even needs to be said that bashing is not allowed is rather saddening, actually.

August 22, 2007, 5:04 PM

Yeah Ryu, it actually is pretty sad considering people constantly insist on bashing Aerith. If a person creates a thread and asks that no bashing allowed, people should show some respect and abide by that rule and that goes for you and anybody else.

August 23, 2007, 6:15 AM

IMO, I think that Aerith was not attempting to use Holy, but to alter destiny with the materia so they would successfully defeat sephiroth. but the penalty of using power of that strength would alter he users destiny so the user would die in a short amount of time. in this case sephiroth just happened to be there.

August 28, 2007, 3:58 PM

i read the MoTP thingy, and i think it explained that aerith knew that she had to stop sephiroth, and knew that she would die in the process. but i could be wrong...i only read it once.

anyway, i don't think that she knew she was going to die without joining the lifestream, but i think she knew that even through her death she would be able to aid them in defeating sephiroth.

August 28, 2007, 4:18 PM

I believe she knew something was going to happen, eg her death. But she did come back with Holy as Marlene does say "Flower girl?" in the Holy FMV. She must have known that she would return to Cloud and co someway after she returned to the planet.

September 5, 2007, 2:11 AM

An interesting topic indeed.

I don't believe she knew she was going to die. Cetra she may be, but she is no seer.

I think she knew very well that when she left, there was a good chance she wasn't coming back. She said "I'll be back when it's all over," as a means to comfort not only Cloud, but herself; looking towards the good instead of the bad. She meant she would return when everything, with Sephiroth, Meteor, and Jenova, had been solved.

The chances she'd make it were extremely slim. But she still looked towards the bright side any way.

Anywho....that's my take on it.

September 5, 2007, 2:26 AM

I think she did know she would die, and that she needed more energy from the Lifestream in order to call Holy.

As for her words regarding coming back - they could mean coming back as a spiritual presence (that "I'll always be with you" that comes with death scenes) or they could also indicate that the Lifestream's part in destroying Meteor was instigated, or otherwise aided by her own actions.

From an after-AC retrospective, it could refer to the way she has an omniescent guardian angel sort of role in the movie.

But from a pre-AC retrospective, one could also conclude that perhaps the Planet decided to remove humanity and that everyone was united in the Lifestream.

September 5, 2007, 3:47 AM

I always got the impression that she didn't know... but was prepared for both. Because I'm pretty sure that she, being an Ancient, she knew that once she returned to the planet she would still have a certain level of interaction with everything going on.

It is slightly confusing when not in that context... Sure, she talked about the future more than anyone... but she also said she'd be back "When it's all over". What is "all" refering to? Because just after Sephiroth was defeated was when she came back to finish the job with Holy.

Eh, I don't think there's a way to know for sure.