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June 9, 2008, 8:20 PM
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Because it wasn't an in-game battle.And Sephiroth's stab was more severe and deadly.
If he would be such an easy opponent why fight him in the end?
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June 10, 2008, 6:00 AM
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I think its cause the random battles are not really apart of the story, persay, or they happen, just the attacks arent leathel. Where as the Sepheroth attack was apart of the plot line 
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June 11, 2008, 1:58 AM
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quick question: if it killed aeris, why didn't it kill tifa? if you think back to cloud's flashback, tifa was also stabbed by seph (seph hates me)
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Well if you wanna add on and ask that, then let me add on to it as well. Why didnt it kill Cloud in the Nibelheim reactor? Cloud gets it driven through him and all that happens is he throws Sephiroth off the side. Clouds was pretty much the same as Aerith when she got stabbed. Granted Sephiroth had some velocity from coming down from nowhere, but still the same wound area.
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June 11, 2008, 3:11 AM
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Some of it could just be plot inconsistancies. I'm pretty sure that the Nieblhiem incident was added later during the production of the game.
I once read a theory that Sephiroth's masamune was a holy sword and it would kill everything it touches. Well ok, so it didn't kill Cloud, Zack, Tifa, or Tseng (according to AC). But perhaps it instantly kills anyone it completely pierces?
This theory also explained why there was no blood during Aerith's death.
Also, if we disregard that theory, it did completely pierce her and most likely tore some major organs. But with everyone else it only seemed to swipe them.
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June 11, 2008, 5:27 PM
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Why so serious?
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Some of it could just be plot inconsistancies. I'm pretty sure that the Nieblhiem incident was added later during the production of the game.
I once read a theory that Sephiroth's masamune was a holy sword and it would kill everything it touches. Well ok, so it didn't kill Cloud, Zack, Tifa, or Tseng (according to AC). But perhaps it instantly kills anyone it completely pierces?
This theory also explained why there was no blood during Aerith's death.
Also, if we disregard that theory, it did completely pierce her and most likely tore some major organs. But with everyone else it only seemed to swipe them.
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I admit, that theory would probably work under different circumstances. I mean, there is an actual legend that states that the Masamune is a holy sword and that it doesn't draw blood from someone who is righteous/pure of heart. However, the fact remains that, in the Nibelheim Reactor, the sword completely pierces Cloud, yet he survives the incident. Within the FFVII Universe, the Masamune just seems to be a normal sword. It probably killed Aerith because he pierced one of her vital organs, whereas, when Sephiroth stabbed Cloud, he just happened to miss his. As for the blood...You have to remember that this was a PSX RPG. First off, they probably wanted to keep the game's rating down to T. Graphical limitations probably had a lot to do with it, as well.
It's pretty much an established rule when it comes to JRPGs that Gameplay=/=Storyline. You can't honestly believe that Cloud and co. can survive multiple Super Novas when, in Advent Children, Cloud was put in a state of near-death for over a day when Loz and Yazoo hit him with that explosion. There's really no other explanation. Think about it. That means that even Cait Sith (a doll) and Barret (a normal human) are capable of withstanding several direct hits from a Super Nova. The same can be said for pretty much any RPG character. In Gameplay, it's true that the party appears to survive being stabbed, burned, zapped, frozen, and crushed by giant monsters, but as far as the storyline is concerned, they just dodged or blocked most of those attacks. However, Sephiroth's Masamune really did pierce Aerith in the storyline, so she took actual damage from it.
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June 11, 2008, 7:36 PM
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I admit, that theory would probably work under different circumstances. I mean, there is an actual legend that states that the Masamune is a holy sword and that it doesn't draw blood from someone who is righteous/pure of heart. However, the fact remains that, in the Nibelheim Reactor, the sword completely pierces Cloud, yet he survives the incident. Within the FFVII Universe, the Masamune just seems to be a normal sword. It probably killed Aerith because he pierced one of her vital organs, whereas, when Sephiroth stabbed Cloud, he just happened to miss his. As for the blood...You have to remember that this was a PSX RPG. First off, they probably wanted to keep the game's rating down to T. Graphical limitations probably had a lot to do with it, as well.
It's pretty much an established rule when it comes to JRPGs that Gameplay=/=Storyline. You can't honestly believe that Cloud and co. can survive multiple Super Novas when, in Advent Children, Cloud was put in a state of near-death for over a day when Loz and Yazoo hit him with that explosion. There's really no other explanation. Think about it. That means that even Cait Sith (a doll) and Barret (a normal human) are capable of withstanding several direct hits from a Super Nova. The same can be said for pretty much any RPG character. In Gameplay, it's true that the party appears to survive being stabbed, burned, zapped, frozen, and crushed by giant monsters, but as far as the storyline is concerned, they just dodged or blocked most of those attacks. However, Sephiroth's Masamune really did pierce Aerith in the storyline, so she took actual damage from it.
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At the end of FF7 though, after Cloud uses omnislash, Sephiroth is covered in blood. Yes random battles do not really have anything to do with the story line, they are just there to give the player something to do and to level up your characters.
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June 11, 2008, 7:42 PM
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Also, keep in mind that Cloud was more resistant to the stab wound than Aerith was because of the mako in his system, same with Zack. Also Aerith is tiny. If a sword went through my body like that, I'd instantly be dead as well. Aerith wasn't infused with mako like Cloud and Zack were. Tifa was only sliced across the chest, she wasn't actually stabbed with Sephiroth's sword like the other two. Just wanted to point those few things out. Oh and about the blood, in Crisis Core, there is blood. I think it's just because of how different the graphics were back then to now.
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June 11, 2008, 8:10 PM
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Why so serious?
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Actually, Sayuri, when Cloud was stabbed at the Nibelheim Reactor, he didn't have any Mako in his system. Hojo didn't test out his Reunion Theory on Cloud and Zack until after the Nibelheim incident, so I don't think the Mako would've had any substantial effect on Cloud's recovery from the stab wound. However, the fact remains, Cloud was still a well-built young man, whereas Aerith was a petite flower girl. Even if Cloud hadn't been enhanced by Mako yet, he did say that, physically speaking, he was qualified to enter SOLDIER, so he was obviously in very good shape for a normal human being. Meanwhile, Aerith never displayed any physical abilities above those of the average girl her age, so it's pretty reasonable to assume that she's not quite as durable as Cloud. As for Tifa...yeah, she wasn't stabbed, she was just slashed across the chest. For all we know, the wound really wasn't that deep.
On the subject of the blood...I don't really know why there wasn't any blood. It would've been a bit more graphic to show Aerith getting impaled than it was to show Sephiroth with a bit of blood on his forehead, though, so I think they just intended for us to suspend our disbelief. Besides, I somehow doubt that Sephiroth is wielding a sword that's incapable of drawing blood, especially considering it can be seen with blood on it in some of his concept art.
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June 11, 2008, 8:28 PM
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Spephiroth's blood at the end looked more like ketchup to me. Perhaps Nomura and the graphics crew had trouble animating blood on Aerith because of the angle of the scene/where she was stabbed.
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However, the fact remains, Cloud was still a well-built young man, whereas Aerith was a petite flower girl. Even if Cloud hadn't been enhanced by Mako yet, he did say that, physically speaking, he was qualified to enter SOLDIER, so he was obviously in very good shape for a normal human being.
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Actually, Cloud had always been a rather weak man, until he had gotten infused with Mako. And Cloud had an identity crisis that made him think that he was an Ex-SOLDIER, while in reality, he was a mere grunt in the ShinRa army. But I won't deny that he was likely stronger than Aerith; she's just a fragile flower girl, and plus, as you said, Sephiroth probably managed to stab Aerith in a weak spot.
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June 11, 2008, 8:31 PM
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