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Final Fantasy VII The first installment of the series to be originally released for the Playstation, also the first one to be released with 3D movement and graphics.

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Old January 8, 2008, 12:53 AM   #31
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Oh no. This thread is just asking for trouble.

Okay, I'll say what I have to say and be done with it.

Yeah, I think Cloud loved Tifa. Not to say he didn't have any feelings for Aerith: Far from it. But, like you've said DP, his 'mindwipe' (so to speak) did make him nearly entirely forget his feelings for Tifa. It was all rather vague to him. So, naturally he, being a guy, would get the hots for some hot chick he randomly happened to fall on.

Later however after Aerith dies Cloud seems to turn back towards Tifa more, as this is the time when he gets his memory/past back. It appears as though he's regained his feelings towards Tifa. It's quite clear this distinct 'moving on' thing, but we all know that it's not as simple as that.

In any case, I could go on and give many examples and cases to prove why I think Clifa is the valid pairing, but I don't want to be the one to launch this into a full-blown debate just yet. (that's for another thread)

Anywho, that's my two cents.

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Old January 8, 2008, 1:46 AM   #32
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You're thread has been merged with the FFVII: Love Triangle thread.
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Old January 8, 2008, 2:00 AM   #33
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Told ya it'd become a debate!
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Old January 8, 2008, 2:56 AM   #34
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That's what this thread is for. Just a small reminder, that you are allowed to debate the pairing here. We do not need multiple threads for this particular subject (ridiculous as it may get...) So please keep your discussion in regarding the LT and your debates in this particular thread. Thank you!
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I like to stick to the fact that Aerith and Zack were the one's who were meant for each other when it comes to Aerith's love life. I mean sure, Zack met an ultimate end which abruptly halted their relationship, but it sort of reminds me of the FFX story of Chapuu and Lulu. When Tidus came ashore in Besaid they noticed the resemblance of Tidus and Chapuu, but Lulu did not go after Tidus because they looked similar; she didn't go after him at all. In some ways I don't think Aerith wouold want to get romantically involved with Cloud because she herself needs to get over the fact that no one will ever be "Zack". Aerith plays more of the sacrificial role in this game as opposed to the love interest.

Tifa is more of the long-time childhood friend who lived across the street, you played in the snow with, came over and played monopoly with your family on weekend nights, etc. She's like Cloud's adoptive sister, or vice versa. Cloud's mroe of a loner in the game than given credit for. Not every game has to be hooking someone up even though it's human nature. We all want to picture ourselves as the hero or heroine in the game and our desire is for a romantic merge where the main male and female "make it through together".

I went through this game after having played FFX and FFIX which both contained high hints of romanticism, sexual tentsion, and affection between main characters, but I didn't feel that at all when I played Final Fantasy VII through.

Oh well, everyone's opinions are different.
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Old February 13, 2008, 11:38 PM   #36
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Again, I'll stick with the fact that it's all up to you to decide.

But Tifa totally has the hots for Cloud. Why do I say this? No reason.

In other news today, a woodchuck farted in the Middle East, driving up gas prices once again....
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Old February 14, 2008, 12:41 AM   #37
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I honestly think Aerith just feel in "love" with cloud cuz it reminded her so much of zack. But cloud had feelings for tifa ever since they were kids( so thats what i thought when i played the game)
I think tifa n cloud belong together, not cuz im a Team Tifa member but beacause i think its how it was meant to be
Aerith died and was reunited with her love

both girls win... in some way
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Old February 14, 2008, 12:55 AM   #38
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My thoughts:

I believe that Aerith never loved Cloud but he just reminded her of Zack, the man she DID love.

Zack of course loved Aerith, but then he died protecting Cloud.

Tifa loves Cloud, but never tells him for the sake of their friendship (although I thought they might have come closer during the movie time line).

Cloud felt attraction towards Aerith (I'll concede that, although it might be because he mimicks Zack's feelings for Aerith) however, he has a feeling of reverence towards her after she dies, a type of love for your guardian (he called her "mother" in the movie).

I think Cloud had a crush on Tifa when they were kids, but that went away eventually (LOL, he got into Shin-Ra and saw so many hot dudes he forgot about women ).

But seriously, Aerith and Zack seem like the obvious pairing, especially since their both dead now. If Zack was still alive, those two would be together before Aerith died, or something.

I would like to hope that Tifa and Cloud would get together. They have potential, but it's all on Cloud to pursue Tifa since she's doesn't want to ruin their friendship.

As for Vincent, Lucrecia, and Hojo...

Vincent did love Lucrecia, that's obvious.

However, I doubt there was any romantic feelings between Hojo and Lucrecia.

I think Lucrecia wanted to get away from Vincent because she felt too guilty about the death of his father and ran to Hojo instead.

Hojo comes of as a little narcissistic, but it's more about the pursuit of knowledge, no matter the cost. If he loves anything, it's probably himself.

Lucrecia is hinted to love Vincent as well, but you, all that stuff happened, so it didn't work out.

I guess those are the only real three ways suggested in the game.
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The original game left the LTD pretty ambigious.

First we have the Highwind scene with Cloud and Tifa, which looked pretty intimate. But then, after defeating Sephiroth, we see Cloud reaching happily for Aerith and then afterwards giving the line "I think I can meet her there."

Then the game ends. We do not know if humanity was wiped out by meteor or not, so who cares who Cloud loved, WTF just happened to everyone?

Then AC comes along and well, if anything it make the LTD very strange.

Cloud and Tifa are living together, sort of, Cloud leaves to live in Aerith's church. Anytime Cloud and Tifa are on screen together they behave like a couple that is on the verge of a very bad breakup, so much that I can't help but cringe anytime they are on the screen together.

And to add more awkwardness, Tifa does not even resemble her game appearance. Suddenly she had black hair... and she looks like a Rinoa cosplayer. Aerith looks the same, but dead people can't exactly change their looks.

So now it looks like Cloud in fact has a third female love interest.

Even though Cloud was clearly over his "emoness" by the end of FFVII, for some reason, well he's still emo. He clearly indicated that he wanted to meet Aerith in the Promised Land, so why is he just sitting around in her church sulking?

And to throw something else into the LTD, Cloud was into those Shinra containers for about five years... so in the game wouldn't that mean that Cloud has the mentality of a 16 year old? So does that make Yuffie the perfect girl for Cloud?

And for the record, Aerith loves Tifa and Tifa loves Aerith. They were closet lesbians the entire game.
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Old February 21, 2008, 8:45 PM   #40
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