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| Final Fantasy VII The first installment of the series to be originally released for the Playstation, also the first one to be released with 3D movement and graphics. |
July 24, 2007, 3:53 AM
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No, you're all missing the whole point.
FF7 is meant to emphasize the importance of friendship and love. Cloud won because he has the one thing Sephiroth will never understand: Love.
Or friendship, but that's just about the same thing. Sephiroth knows only hate and hate can only destroy. But in the end, love is stronger than anything, stronger even than death. That is the whole point of FF7, both the movie and the game. That is the moral lesson. And I'm rather shocked to find that no one else here understood that.
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July 24, 2007, 3:53 PM
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But you've got to admit that bad guys always lose in most games because they are supposed to lose, like Sephiroth.
Yes friendship and all that but man it would be good to see, at least, a fake victory for the bad guys near the ending...(not Aeris assassination, that doesn't counts)
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July 24, 2007, 3:55 PM
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Games should show more bad guys winning, imagine a FF when the heros fail and the world is plunged into darkness.
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"Ever since I was small, I've felt different from the others... special in some way. But not like this..." - Sephiroth Final Fantasy VII (B-KoS)
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July 24, 2007, 4:45 PM
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I think cloud only beats sephiroth becase they don't want the main charactar to die. just like when cloud lived through his mako-induced coma.
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July 24, 2007, 7:19 PM
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i think Sephiroth knew cloub would stop him cause he wanted to rule the world. and maybe another half of it is Sephy wanted to play with him.
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July 25, 2007, 2:31 AM
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It's actually quite simple. If Cloud were to have been beaten the first time, there wouldn't been a game in the first place, because he would have been dead. The latter battle, the final battle, Sephiroth wins all the time. That is what the "game over" screen means. Simply said, plot devices.
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July 25, 2007, 4:40 PM
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The way i look at it is like this...Maybe Sephiroth wanted Cloud to stop him on a different level, thats why he kept "summoning" him.
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July 25, 2007, 6:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WiL Des Gardius
Cloud got injected with Jenova Cells and was submerged into Mako but he failed the test for soldier because he was a mess... i think, its been a while since I played it. And yeah it would be cool to see Sephiroths limit breaks but technicially he does as he takes the same character slot as Vincent, so he has Vincents Limit breaks.
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But he never got injected with Jenova Cells and submerged into Mako until he defeated Sephiroth the first time. Shortly afterward's Zak took Cloud away from the scene and tried to completely flee the scene to Midgar, but just as they got there Shinra Soldier's killed Zak and well, cloud was in a state. Then Hojo expiremented on the "Person" who managed to defeat Sephiroth, ect...
I think the first time he managed to defeat Sephiroth was because he was so in-raged by the site of his home-town getting burned down and at the sight of what happened to Tifa, a close friend of his made him more angry and so he fought for her, ect .
Second time was either because he was overlimited (Best Level you can get to) and best equip/Materia (For the Bizzaro/One winged Angel fight) then of course you have the infamous Omnislash scene.
Uh ... I think I've blabbed long enough ^^ .
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August 4, 2007, 4:16 AM
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umm...so who do u think is the real strongest...
i mean i like sephy and all but wat about cloud...just because he doesnt hav jenova blood in him doesnt mean he cant beat sephiroth
will anyone answer my questions
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Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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August 4, 2007, 8:01 PM
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First Battle: Cloud won because he stabbed Sephiroth's back by surprise, and gained the advantage.
Second Battle: Cloud won because he has the help of all his friends, and Sephiroth wasn't totally concentrated in the battle(he was using his will to hold Holly).
Third Battle: Cloud won because he was much more powerful after all his adventure in FFVII, and because Sephiroth was weaker after his body(Safer) was destroyed. And maybe because Sephiroth underestimated Cloud.
Fourth and Final Battle: Cloud won because Sephiroth didn't even try in that fight. He was playing and toying with Cloud during all of it.
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