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Final Fantasy VII The first installment of the series to be originally released for the Playstation, also the first one to be released with 3D movement and graphics.

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Old August 20, 2007, 5:17 PM   #11
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I believe Rufus is the better president. Once Rufus father dies, Rufus was able to quickly get popularity from the world. Rufus is charming and more confident than his father.

As AG said above, Rufus was trying to get rid of Sephiroth. Unlike his father, he didn't do much about Sephiroth.
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Old August 20, 2007, 5:29 PM   #12
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I believe Rufus is the better president. Once Rufus father dies, Rufus was able to quickly get popularity from the world. Rufus is charming and more confident than his father.

As AG said above, Rufus was trying to get rid of Sephiroth. Unlike his father, he didn't do much about Sephiroth.
To be fair, though, Shinra himself didn't know that Sephiroth was actually a threat prior to his death.
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Old August 21, 2007, 1:07 AM   #13
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Rufus was a more evil villain, without a doubt. However his predecessor was by far the better leader of a company.
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Old August 25, 2007, 2:09 AM   #14
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Rufus of course.

Yes his father was a very ambitious man, blah,blah,blah. He created the company and all that, but couldnt stand up to a sword in the back. (who is he Aerith? He has the strength of a flower girl, even Tifa stood up against Sepheroths sword, and she was a kid!)

While Rufus lets you attack him with full strength while he laughs maniacally and lets his pet fight you. Rufus, you are cool.
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Old August 25, 2007, 7:18 PM   #15
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Actually that's not a bad point. Rufus was able to withstand not only the brunt of Cloud's buster sword... but also a blast from Ultima Weapon. That's actually pretty impressive...
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this thread does not debate Rufus phyiscal strength, as impressive as it is, it questions who ran Shina-ra better, and for that Rufus cannot compare to his father.
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Old August 25, 2007, 9:49 PM   #17
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Well now that's a dumb argument. lol Better is an ambiguous term with absolutely no factual definition. It's all about opinion. Strength is a characteristic of a person and therefore could easily contribute to a person's opinion about a character. It's completely relevant. :/

In short, you can't argue that anyone's argument doesn't fall under the category of "who's better" as long as they are discussing the characters of the people themselves because "best" is such an undefinable condition.
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Old August 25, 2007, 10:05 PM   #18
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I say Rufus. Even though Shinra built a massive company he was stupid enough to get killed, while on the other hand Rufus somehow found a way to survive an explosion. Shinra built the company, but Rufus found ways to use it's recources in a better manner than his father, like saving the world instead of sucking the life from it. And the argument of how midgar looked at the end of the game when Red XIII saw it from the cliff doesn't mean anything. please remember that it was 500 years later. I doubt Rufus lived even 100 years longer.
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Old August 25, 2007, 10:18 PM   #19
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resources he would not of had if it wasn't for his father, his father also didn't go power hungry over some "promised land"
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Old August 26, 2007, 2:22 PM   #20
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Shinra built the company up from the ground. Rufus just inherited it. While there is no argument that Rufus was a good president i somehow doubt he'd have had the patience to start a company from scratch. He's obviously the rich playboy type. Also consider that two years after meteorfall Shinra is still in ruins. Reno even says that they needed Cloud's help to rebuild Shinra. I think the original president would've rebuiilt the company immediately instead of sitting on his ass for two years.
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