Member/Mod Middleman - Page 4

August 5, 2007, 3:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrutator

This idea of having a middleman is going around because people think that the current staff are not paying much attention to them, in all seriousness would it make much difference having members elected to take in all the complaints to then forward to staff?

All that's going to happen is these people are going to get caught up in the middle with members complaining about problems or why they haven't had a reply and then they'll have to constantly PM or whatever to staff for answers.

A better solution if the staff aren't doing their jobs to everyones satisfaction is to either replace those particular staff members or to bring in more that would actually do something.

Again as ever you speak the truth.

Why would a middleman help? There's a reason why alot of TV Adverts say there are NO MIDDLEMEN because they're useless or cause more problems in general.

The problem isn't that the staff aren't doing their job, they are doing their job, but they're also abusing their power and handing out needless infractions and taking personal opinions into account when they hand them out. For example if they don't like you using a particular word, and other members and moderators don't give a DAMN. Or if a moderator doesn't like a member and is just itching to give an infraction for whatever reason.

If that happens, simple solution, take it to another moderator and get them to reverse it, DAMN that was a fucking challenge wasn't it, I've done it myself only if I think it was unreasonable. Some of you are just bitter.

Or is there something I'm not picking up on, is it another one of those things you children are pussy footing around?

August 5, 2007, 6:04 PM

I actually do read most of what goes on in the Feedback and Suggestion forum, as I know the other staffer's do as well.

Most of the time though, when I say I'm going to 'bring something up in the staff section', I really do bring it up in the staff section, because there isn't anything else I can do except promise members that I'll at least bring it up. But like Rhea and several other members have said, it usually doesn't go beyond that. We talk, most of the staff will say yay or nay on the subject, but it doesn't matter anyway, cause no one can do shit without DB's permission so.............yay.

Oh, and to those of you who say that DB just hands over ACP access to everyone higher up, and then just sits back and lets them take care of it, I'd like to also point out, again, that Global Mods on this site don't have ACP access. Cause that's the kind of world FFF is. So....if it seems like the GM's, aren't paying attention to you, or aren't doing what you think they should be doing........yeah x2.

So, on this particular forum, I think it would be nice to have a 'member rep' system. It may.....do something useful.

Buuuuuut.....no one get your hearts broke if you never see it implemented.

My Character Profiles · August 5, 2007, 6:12 PM

I don't think it was DB's idea to take ACP access away from Gmods. I swear to god, someone put that idea into his head.

And I'm willing to bet that your member rep system will never happen.
*pat pat*
Sorry Angel.

August 5, 2007, 6:18 PM

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I don't think it was DB's idea to take ACP access away from Gmods. I swear to god, someone put that idea into his head.

And I'm willing to bet that your member rep system will never happen.
*pat pat*
Sorry Angel.

I swear there's a little gremlin that lives under DB's bed and gives him ideas

And I never expected it to come about really anyway to be honest xD I'm not the first one that brought it up here though

I just backed it cause I thought it was a good idea.

August 5, 2007, 6:30 PM

Somebody did put that idea in his head. Frankly, I agree with not allowing Gmods access to the ACP.

Also, I think it is important that members feel free to PM any mod or admin when they have problems or suggestions. I do not like the rep idea. It is saying that members do not want to directly deal with staff.

I suggest everybody find a member of the staff and pm your problems and ideas to them. Of course, do not make a nuisance of yourself. A while back, I had a problem with a staff member on another forum. The staff member was actually harrassing me. I went directly to an admin about my problem. The admin handled my problem with the staff member. She actually agreed that the staff member was wrong in their actions. I also eventually became friendly with that admin. If I had not done that, I probably would of left the forum or got banned by the staff member causing me problems.

So the communication channels between members and staff need to be direct. A middle person would only make things more complicated. It would probably be much better to resolve any problems with a staff member with another member of the staff. Trust me, we are all just human. None of the staff have the power of Sephiroth or Chaos or any other evil bad guy from FF.

August 5, 2007, 8:24 PM

The point is, Koloth, that not every staff member is equally approachable as the next. So, with more confident and settled members involved in this, it could let the members voice concerns more clearly, and it stops the staff becoming paranoid that they are being unfair or are disliked. The member reps could even go to another person, if this is the case.

August 5, 2007, 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhea

I don't think it was DB's idea to take ACP access away from Gmods. I swear to god, someone put that idea into his head.

You're right. That was Saix's idea, if my memory serves me correctly.

August 5, 2007, 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riku

The point is, Koloth, that not every staff member is equally approachable as the next. So, with more confident and settled members involved in this, it could let the members voice concerns more clearly, and it stops the staff becoming paranoid that they are being unfair or are disliked. The member reps could even go to another person, if this is the case.

There are staff that are easy to access. I am one of them. Why can't an existing member of the staff serve this purpose? To be honest, the communication issues could still happen with go betweens as well as staff.

August 5, 2007, 9:29 PM

No offense, but you're merely an RPG mod. You wouldn't be anywhere near the top of my list of people to contact. Though it is good to know that you're there.

Like I already said; some people feel intimidated by the power that a moderator holds over them, and therefore would feel more comfortable talking with a regular member rather than a staff member. These points could then be passed on by the middleman.