i always wanted to know, which is better, what are the ups and downs of both these powerful posscessors. which is better the Intel duel core or the AMD Duel cores?

for me its amd dual core, gnerally all processor are good depends of the needs of everyone, i got an amd and i worl pretty good, i dont have problems, only had problems with the ram memory, and the virtual memory, but that easy to fix. in my opinion amd its more bettr that an intel.

I've always been an Intel fan. Sure, they can be priced higher, but you're getting a better chip.

Intel processors just seem to handle Error Correction and Memory Addressing a whole lot better than AMD processors meaning a lot less blue screens of death or the ever common Illegal Operation Memory Address Error. However, the biggest problem I've seen and still continue to see with AMD processors are burnt out fried processors. AMD processors run hot, very hot compared to their Intel counterparts and you'll aways have to keep tabs on your processor's cooling fan. If your processor's cooling fan were to die and most die from dust clogs, I guarantee that your AMD chip will burn out within 3-4 minutes. Intel chips just run a lot cooler and are very hard to burn out since 99% of them will shut down well before any damage occurs after reaching a certain temperature, but again, you'll only see this if your having cooling fan problems.

Now, AMD processors aren't necessarily bad processors since I've seen them come along way over the years, but they still have a long way to go in my opinion.

Well with Intel's Quad-Core I'd say Intel. I can't speak from experience because personally I've always used an Intel CPU. However Intel's are quite pricey but they make up for it in reliability, from what I've been told AMD is faster but they are shit and unreliable. If you are looking for a good CPU and you've got the cash get the Intel Quad-Core.

AMD is generally cheaper, and a better choice if you're short on cash. Especially for gamers who want to build a PC and still get alot of the needed periphials and what not. Such as a microphone, a decent internet connection, and so on. Well they aren't needed but most gamers would find it ghey without it.

Huh? Every AMD that I've ever owned is twice as expensive as a comparable Intel...

AMD Opteron - I have 2 machines running Opteron Duals and 8GB RAM. (4 per proc) The Intel rival would be the XEON that I have in this machine, with 3GB RAM. The AMD machine is over 2.5X more expensive, even before adding the RAM.

You're off to a bad start.


I've never had a single blue screen of death on my AMD machines. Never, not once, nada. Maybe Intel machines are better at handling errors, because they HAVE to be?

Memory addressing? With no FSB on AMD chips, how do you say that Intel handles memory addressing better?

Evidently you are running ancient Intel hardware, because procs with heat sinks are the norm these days.

You don't need to "keep tabs" on a cooling fan - you only need to have one that meets the requirements of your processor. If it fails, you go after the manufacturer. My machines run 24/7, and again, I have NEVER had a blue screen of death. (which would occur before a meltdown)


Actually, it's more like 12 seconds. (really) But if you are that much of a slob that you allow any piece of electronic equipment to become injected and matted with particulate, you deserve to pay for new equipment.




I would suggest you test more, and talk less. You really don't know what you're talking about...

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I would be happy to debate Intel vs. AMD Fact with you all day long, but only on a mature level. DO NOT! Try to insult me ever again.
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What’s that supposed to prove? You decided to buy a higher-end, more expensive version of the AMD chip. Also, yes it is a sad fact that most of the time; you DO have to buy double the AMD chips, to equal one Intel configured chip.

Again, what does this prove? Sounds like you have 2.5X more equipment in the AMD units then you do in you single Intel system.
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When I answered BladeWarrior’s original question, it was in response to a question based on a DESKTOP PROCESSOR, not a SERVER BASED PROCESSOR which you’re trying to compare. An Intel Xeon processor is meant for a server platform and is rarely found in a home end user’s PC, unless they custom built it that way.
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Count yourself luck! This is the number one complaint I hear from my clients that have decided to go with an AMD chip over an Intel, not to mention my own personal experience doing repair work on AMD systems.
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<!--[endif]-->And again, there’s no comparison to your argument here, since your Opteron is a SERVER BASED PROCESSOR not a DESKTOP PROCESSOR. It was designed to handle error correction, hence no memory errors or blue screens of death (hardware errors). Also, since your running a SERVER BASED PROCESSOR, you’ll have to use ERROR CORRECTING SERVER MEMORY. Again, way to expensive and impractical for your common desktop PC.

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I’m not sure where you got that information, but you’re terribly wrong. ALL computers have an FSB (Front Side Bus), even AMD PROCESSORS/SYSTEMS! The front side bus is the measurement of data in bits which is measured in MHz. It is very critical that the Processor’s FSB, the RAM’s FSB (Random Access Memory) and the Motherboards FSB all match for any computer to function properly.
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How do I say Intel handles memory addressing better? It’s very easy and the facts speak for themselves. Look at any Intel vs. AMD bench mark (An official Bench Mark, NOT some AMD or Intel Fanboy’s Bench Mark). You’ll see that the Intel chips are slightly faster to much faster than their AMD counter parts. This is because an Intel DESKTOP PROCESSOR handles error correction and memory addressing a whole lot better, thus resulting in faster data cycles per second, millisecond, etc…

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Really, and where exactly did I say that they didn’t come with a processor heat sink and fan.

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I’ve got news for you, READ your warranty agreement that came with your processor, which I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like you threw it away without reading it. You’ll see that the PROCESSORS HEAT SINK and FAN are classed as WEAR AND TEAR parts, MEANING its YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to make sure that are WORKING FULLY or IT WILL NULL and VOID YOUR WARRANTY! It’s just like the oil in your cars engine. While your car is under the manufactures warranty, you must have documented proof of all scheduled OIL CHANGES should you engine blow and the mechanic needs to file warranty claim.
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Again, that’s incorrect. If your processor burns up, your computer will freeze, or if you invested enough money on a decent Power Supply, it will immediately cut off power to the computer.

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Wrong again. A dead CPU fan with the heat sink still attached will give you minutes, but most of the time this will only cause performance issues with freezing on Intel systems and complete burn out in minutes on an AMD systems. Now, if the heat sink and fan are intentional removed while the PC is in use, then (“really”) its more like 2 or 3 seconds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgOmMAasqto
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Again, INSULTING me and calling me a SLOB is uncalled for. There’s a little well know atmospheric phenomenon call dust. Over time this dust builds up inside the moving parts of the fans inside a computer. Eventually this dust becomes so thick that it clogs the fans and they stop moving. Now, most of my clients aren’t aware of this problem and sure as hell don’t call them slobs, I just educate them on the importance of having your computer cleaned every 6 months at the very latest’s and since BladeWarrior may not have been aware of this, I decided to mention this leading cause of computer hardware failure.
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Oh but I do know what I’m talking about, not to mention every single one of my client trust my knowledge and experience. I’m just sorry if it’s not what you like to hear.

Bucho, there is no need to talking trash back to someone who made a non-threatening post. So maybe your views and beliefs are different or the facts you have are different; you don't have to be an ass about things though. Just post your stuff, and try to help out. Belittling someone on the internet gets you no-where.