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Yes, I Support it 7 70.00%
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Old July 13, 2008, 9:40 PM   #51
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Ulcers can come about in many ways. Main things doctors claim is it comes from Stress. Well going to the hospital on a weekly bases and getting that bill at the end doesn't help with the stress either.

Other is bacteria. When I was 18 I had bacteria eating away at my stomach, causing cuts, at the same time I was going through stress because I lost my track scholarship because of a broken neck. So the stress caused acid to build up in my stomach. Overbuild of acid + cuts from the bacteria in my stomach caused them to open up worse and for me to bleed out.

Over the years doctors keep blaming it on stress and telling me to chill out, but its quite hard to when every month something new happens, my child died, fiance killed herself after wards, best friend gets shot to death, and so on.

I was on Medicaid for a while, but they sent a package for me to fill out to the wrong address. Because I never got that on time I was kicked off and I cannot get it back. So I am just basically screwed insurance wise and cannot get help no matter where I turn.

Edit: And the kicker, Bush recently passed a rule, where even if you declare bankruptcy, you still have to pay it off...so doing so is quite useless for me now.
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Holy crap dude...this is off topic from the debate, but seriously, I hope your luck starts to improve. I would probably have a ton of ulcers too. Perhaps you could try to write to a politician or somebody somewhere with your story? Maybe a news program?

Yeah...I'm starting to think some of these programs are poorly managed. My friend who is really sick right now had the medicaid people fuck up things so he has to reapply and an all sorts of other things. It really makes you wonder...
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Old July 14, 2008, 12:49 AM   #52
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I live in Holland so I am pretty lucky, we are known for having one of the best health care systems in the world. But I also went to Italy once and I was shocked at how little care was given to the sick and needy, I don't care what numbers say, I have never seen such depression. Sure on TV it might look like this cool vacation destination, but that's a mask for what happens behind the scenes.
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Okay, this is a subject about which I feel -very- strongly. I bet most people don't really care, but I'm interested in hearing everyone's opinions.

What does everyone think about universal health care? As you may know, the United States currently does not have universal health care; Europe and Canada do. There are a few politicians who are interested in implementing the universal health care system in America, and probably fashioning it out of the Canadian system.

Personally, I think universal health care fucking sucks. I have a bit of experience with it because my parents are from Quebec. To me, it's like communism-- it looks great on paper, but realistically, it doesn't work very well. While it is true that under universal health care, everyone has access to medical care, the medical care provided is sub par.

(Just as an aside: I don't think President Bush should have vetoed the health care bill that would have provided health care to working class family's children. I think that was a good bill. I'm just against universal health care that would essentially deprivatize the medical industry.)
Agreed, it wouldn't work here since the rich dont pay taxes.

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