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Old February 23, 2008, 3:36 AM   #1
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  1. punishment of a person who wronged one
    <DL><DD>to demand justice </DD></DL>
that is the definition of justice.

but what really is justice?
is it executing a criminal?
is it even tangible or is it a state of mind?
does it even exist?

i was watching a police show the other day, and at the end when they caught the killer and he is sentenced to 25 to life, the policeman says ' justice was served'
and i thought that is not justice, its making society safer, but not justice .

your thoughts?
ps this has nothing to do with sentencing, its about the concept of justice, if i hadnt made that clear
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Old February 24, 2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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Justice doesn't always mean finding harmony in somebody's punishment. Criminal justice is where the punishment is proportional to the crime, so more like getting your own back, really. It doesn't always bring direct benefits either, apart from meaning that there is one less criminal running about. A victim of rape or the family of a murder victim may feel justice after the attacker was sentenced life in jail, but like most things this feeling is only temporary, and apart from that no real benefits are brought.

I dunno, it's a tricky thing to think about, I'll wait until more people have posted. =/
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Old April 19, 2008, 1:48 PM   #3
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The meaning of justice can change from one day to the next. sometimes it means punishing someone for the crime he\she did. and other time it means giving something to the people equally ( each one takes the same amount of that thing).
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Justice is the alignment of balance. If someone hurted your feelings before, you're bound to hurt them back. Now I'm trying not to talk about revenge. It all depends on the situation. The Irish demaded justice against the English, for making Ireland their country.
Justice can be really harsh. Some people back at the middle ages thought of a new law of justice, which is now completely gone.

"If you got into a fight, your tooth will be removed."
"If you hurt somebody's eye, you shall have yours torn out."
"If you killed, your life will be taken away."

The ten commandments are still used as the symbol of justice today.

Don't confuse justice with revenge, like I did
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"If you hurt somebody's eye, you shall have yours torn out."
"If you killed, your life will be taken away."
those two punishments are used in my country plus

"if you steel thay cut your right hand"
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Justice is defined to me as something in the eye of the beholder. Only those wronged can decide the true justice for the action, which often is harsh. My opinion would be that if human's could objectively produce a decision rather than take it personally, they'd produce the correct idea, but clearly, its impossible, and if it truly affects a person in a very personal way, their justice becomes unjust.

I hope that made sense... basically what I'm saying is, those who were wronged (if someone was for that matter), they would be the only one capable of truly deciding what justice would be, but only if they could decide without emotion, or at least personal emotion.

It sounds harsh, but it makes sense to me.
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I think justice is really objective. There are different social and cultural concepts of justice. Even people of the same cultural and social backgrounds have different concepts of justice and what, precisely, it is.

It's really easy to get justice and revenge confused. Sometimes I think they're the same thing. In a way, the "justice system" in the US is more like a retribution system than anything else. Jail does not, for the most part, rehabilitate people. People are "punished" for their crimes by being stripped of their freedom, stuck into a small space with other criminals, etc. It seems like revenge to me. What about that is "justice"? If someone robs a bank, why does sticking them in jail for a few years constitute justice? Isn't it just punishing them and, essentially, exacting revenge on them for their crime against society?

To be quite honest, I think the idea of "justice" comes from the very instinctual desire for revenge. I think justice is just a polite term for revenge. What makes a certain punishment "justice" but not "revenge"? Can anyone answer that?
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