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September 12, 2007, 2:15 PM
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Every beginning has an end
Einstein theory is that space and time is a fabric, that warps and manipulates by mass explaining how gravity works. Some scientist, (I forget who at the moment since it's been 10 years since I was taught this) sort of proved Einstein's theory correct when he noticed that a star hidden behind the sun was visible during a solar eclipse because light was manipulated by the sun and moon's gravity. The darkness of the moon allowed an otherwise obscured light source to be noticed. Einstein became an instant success overnight. Next the big bang theory came into play and was contradicted by the static universe theory.
The big bang theory states that the universe, ever expanding, if replayed in a reversed direction would all start at an infinitely small point where gravity, electric-magnetism, and the two properties of nuclear physics were all combined with all matter in a 'cosmic seed' that the universe would grow from.
The static state universe theory is that all matter always existed.
Both theories state all elements beyond hydrogen were created in nuclear fusion within stars though the big bang states some of the hydrogen and lighter elements were created in an initial 'big bang' event. In order to prove the big bang was a more accurate theory astronomers had to figure out the age of the universe and an astronomer by the last name of Hubble had an equation that could figure it out. Hubble estimated the universe to be 2 billion years old since the big bang. This seemed inaccurate across the scientific community because we knew the earth was more than 4 billion years old. Hubble had the right equation but his numbers were off. Also the universe is really equally distributed in temperature which made the static theory seem more correct. Someone later in found out that the temperature was mostly the same because of a radioactive blast wave of some kind of matter left from the big bang was distributed about and regulated the temperature of the known reaches of space. It was discovered with radio telescopes. The universe was estimated to be 14 billion years old. In the first millionth of a second gravity escapes the single force it was once part of. The next second the other properties separated, The next three minute most of the universe was disperse abroad. Big bang became a big thing overnight.
Next is something very mysterious. Something so unexplained and terrifying in nature that it dwarfs the threat of a massive black hole, and that is dark matter. And according to astronomers this substance or force will literally cause or is causing the universe to expand, and expand, and expand till atoms themselves separate into infinitely small pieces making the universe literally dissolve. It's estimated that this would happen within the next 15 billion years. The universe will almost in a sense cease to exist.
This is how I know it for the most part and I'm sure it's pretty accurate
And here is topic subject. Not a debate, if you wish to debate create your own thread. The subject is that I and probably many, many others are having a hard time comprehending this. It would make for great, interesting and a little exciting conversation if others more educated in this subject would give out facts, point out important criteria and answer questions that may be given to them in order for me and others to comprehend this subject.
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September 13, 2007, 10:15 AM
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I think that what the scientists mean is that since the universe is ever expanding, then the atoms are expanding as well. Eventually the atoms will become so miniscule that they would eventually cease to exist. Therefore all matter would eventually cease to exist as a result. The atoms would get inverted and turn into dark matter and start to wipe everything out.
This is my best guess.
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September 13, 2007, 10:18 AM
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The question I always wanted answering is:
If the big bang truly were the beginning of our universe, then what existed before the singularity?
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September 13, 2007, 10:27 AM
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That's like asking "Where was God before time started ticking?" No one really knows and will probably never find out.
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September 13, 2007, 10:33 AM
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Some questions will never be answered, but I can answer yours.
God does not exist, he was made up long before our time to give the people hope from death probably made up by some ancient goverment. Therefore God was no where before time started ticking.
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September 13, 2007, 10:42 AM
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Well it wasn't really a question. I don't believe in God. Just read the 160th post of the "Do you believe in God" thread. That'll tell ya what I think about religion.
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September 13, 2007, 10:50 AM
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Religion stinks, we share the same views.
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September 14, 2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Sephirothalpha
The question I always wanted answering is:
If the big bang truly were the beginning of our universe, then what existed before the singularity?
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When questions like this come up, everyone wants some kind of complicated answer to feel satisfied. I think the answer is simple. It leads to "what was before that, then that, then that..." and so on. First you have to know what question to ask. Don't ask "what was before that?" or "what started that?" Ask why or how.
So, why did the big bang happen? Why did our universe form? How did everything in creation start??
Ready for the big answer.
It just did.
See, plain and simple. No need to stress the brain on something that probably has one of the most basic answers. Atleast, that's just my theory.
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September 14, 2007, 2:01 AM
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I'm actually learning about the "god" factor in my world civilizations class. As we all know, history repeats itself because humans are only human and we reenact the same mistakes and errors over and over again.
According to history, there have been numerous civilizations which adopted foreign forms of religion in lieu of certain inescapable disasters, like plague, war, etc...I know this isn't a religious topic, but the fact is that religion and "god talk" in history is an adopted belief. Science on the other hand, has "always been".
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God could very well just be a rumor.
The theory of gravity was never really a theory. Gravity exists. It always has, apparently.
This is one of those questions that could drive a person insane just by trying to find the answer. Maybe we should be wondering why this question drives us all crazy. ^.^
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September 14, 2007, 7:38 AM
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