Your opinions of the GEOSTIGMA - Page 5

December 30, 2007, 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Aerith

No, actually I don't think that's it at all. I've seen quite a few Japanese characters with the one-sleeve design. It's all part of a fighter/warrior's outfit. Remember Yuffie's outfit in FFVII? She only had one (sort of like) sleeve as well. Yuffie's Sleeve thing It's just a traditional part of the outfit. I actually really like it on Cloud. I think it suits him.

Anyway, I have to wonder since we're discussing the Geostigma. Cloud didn't come in such strong contact with the Lifestream like Levy and all those other people did in Denzel's Story, so when Cloud found Denzel by his bike outside of Aerith's church, is that when he contracted the stigma? It is possible that Cloud got it from Denzel? Just a thought...

Well according to what little I know about FFVII's storyline, Cloud spent years as part of some sort of experiment and he was infused with J-Cells, right? If that so, isn't the so called "Reunion" that Kadaj talks about the gathering of all J-Cells inside beings that have been infected Geostigma? Cloud has been experimenting the effects of the Geostigma since the beginning of the film, hiding from others and slowly allowing this disease to eat him, for his guilt for not being able to save Aerith is killing him as well. Maybe Cloud's Geostigma remained inactive in his body, until the whole Geostigma spread through Midgar.

December 30, 2007, 9:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Julius Argexis

Well according to what little I know about FFVII's storyline, Cloud spent years as part of some sort of experiment and he was infused with J-Cells, right? If that so, isn't the so called "Reunion" that Kadaj talks about the gathering of all J-Cells inside beings that have been infected Geostigma? Cloud has been experimenting the effects of the Geostigma since the beginning of the film, hiding from others and slowly allowing this disease to eat him, for his guilt for not being able to save Aerith is killing him as well. Maybe Cloud's Geostigma remained inactive in his body, until the whole Geostigma spread through Midgar.

No see, I really don't think it is. Otherwise he would have had geostigma right away when he was released from all that experimentation. The geostigma was killing people and spreading way too quickly. It was the contaminated J-Cells that were released from the Lifestream when it burst out of the earth. That's what made everyone so sick. The people who'd come into contact with those particular cells had gotten sick. I would think if that would have been the case, Cloud would have been the first victim and would have died a long time ago. Geostigma wasn't even around when all those experiments were happening. Geostigma wasn't born until after the Lifestream burst out of the planet. It wasn't Cloud who was the original carrier.

January 1, 2008, 6:04 PM

Disease, it didn't spread like a virus, it's been a while since I seen this movie, but I don't remember it being contagious in any way. Marlene wasn't infected anyway. I guess it's bcause she was in Kalm at the time of the Lifestream moment.

January 1, 2008, 6:33 PM

I wonder if Geostigma will hit the Earth soon. All we have to do is wait for the rain, or travel away from Earth into a distant planet that turns out to be Gaia or something.

January 1, 2008, 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Amelia Jinx

I wonder if Geostigma will hit the Earth soon. All we have to do is wait for the rain, or travel away from Earth into a distant planet that turns out to be Gaia or something.

Uh...last time I checked Geostigma was confined to the realm of "videogames", so I don't think it'll end up in the real world any time soon. The Geostigma problem was kind of resolved anyway, and Earth doesn't have a lifestream....so there's not much of a threat.

January 1, 2008, 8:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Amelia Jinx

Good. But maybe the Japanese might make the games into real life. I'll kill myself after that. I don't wanna cath Geostigma.

lolwut? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard

The only way that could happen was if Imaginationland was breached and terrorists stole Geostigma. Even then it wouldn't work since it came from the lifestream and we don't have a lifestream, and I don't think the terrorists or Japanese could create a lifestream in the earth then have it spew out Jenova cells.

January 1, 2008, 10:29 PM

Hmm I don't think the Japanese are going to bring the realm of videogames into real life, certainly we won't find a planet like Gaia or catch Geostigma. But I wouldn't rule out the idea of terrorists trying to do something similar on a more real level. And hey, how do you know a "lifestream" of sorts doesn't exist?

January 12, 2008, 2:06 AM

The Geostigma wasn't contagious, and it wasn't even technically a disease; vincent explained it in the forest. The geostigma was a side effect of the body's immune system fighting off the Jenova Cells and overcompensating.

January 17, 2008, 2:34 AM

Whoa! Can you say misunderstanding? LA, I see your confusion, but I'll try and sort it out.

Cloud did NOT contract Geostigma from Denzel. There is a reason why primarily children have the disease. (I'll explain why in a sec)

In the very last battle of the game (well... second to last) you defeat Jenova's body. At this time, the group was in the Lifestream. So, Jenova's entire body was diffused throughout the Lifestream after it had been defeated.

Well, this comes back to bite everyone in the butt later on. Now, Geostigma is caused by Jenova cells in the body, via Lifestream that everyone is imbued with. This irritant is detected by the body as an invader and the immune system kicks in. However, this 'invader' is not physical, and the body only ends up attacking itself.

Why children? Because they were imbued with Lifestream earlier than adults. Namely, they were imbued with Lifestream that was rife with Jenova cells! So, the Jenova cells went to work and cause Geostigma as we know it.

But why Cloud? Well, as previously mentioned, he was experimented on by Shinra, which included the injection of Jenova cells.

Had any of the other Sephiroth 'clones' survived (Sephiroth killed them all off) you would've seen Geostigma present in them as well. So, Cloud and clones would all be in the same boat. They've already got the Jenova cells in them, so they'd be the only adults very susceptible to the disease.

My guess is that former members of SOLDIER would also be seen with Geostigma, and other, normal adults (Like Tifa, Barret, etc.) would prove to be very resistant to contracting Geostigma physically from anyone already infected. Since the Jenova cells are only present in the 'spirit energy' within everyone (except in Cloud's case, and his case of Geostigma was very bad as you can see in the movie) and thus, no physical contact is made with the disease-causing object itself.

I hope this clears it up. Ask if you have any questions!!